Comments on: Clash of the Shorts http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts Football kits from 1980 to the present day Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:22:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Stein http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-79095 Stein Sat, 07 May 2011 08:05:04 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-79095 These are the Premier League rules for kit clashes for last season: F.21 Subject to Rules F.20 and F.22, when playing in League Matches the Players of each participating Club shall wear its home Strip unless the home Strips of the participating Clubs are alike or similar or are in the opinion of the referee likely to cause confusion in which event Players of the Visiting Club shall wear its away Strip, third Strip or a combination of its home Strip, away Strip and its third Strip. In the event of any dispute with regard to the Strip to be worn by either Club, the referee’s decision shall be final. F.22 Players of the Visiting Club may wear its away Strip or third Strip when playing in League Matches provided that they shall not do so on more than 8 occasions in any Season, including those occasions, if any, when required to do so by virtue of the foregoing provisions of Rule F.21. For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this Rule shall limit the number of occasions a Club may be required to change its Strip pursuant to Rule F.21. It is up to the match officials to decide, though, and there seems to e some inconsitencu. Clashing shorts seem to be OK in the PL but not socks. In the FL, officials seem to insist on changes to both shorts and socks when there's a clash. The wording of F.22 is strange, though, as the last sentence contradicts the first. These are the Premier League rules for kit clashes for last season:

F.21 Subject to Rules F.20 and F.22, when playing in League Matches the Players of each
participating Club shall wear its home Strip unless the home Strips of the participating Clubs
are alike or similar or are in the opinion of the referee likely to cause confusion in which event
Players of the Visiting Club shall wear its away Strip, third Strip or a combination of its home
Strip, away Strip and its third Strip. In the event of any dispute with regard to the Strip to be
worn by either Club, the referee’s decision shall be final.

F.22 Players of the Visiting Club may wear its away Strip or third Strip when playing in League
Matches provided that they shall not do so on more than 8 occasions in any Season, including
those occasions, if any, when required to do so by virtue of the foregoing provisions of Rule
F.21. For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this Rule shall limit the number of occasions a
Club may be required to change its Strip pursuant to Rule F.21.

It is up to the match officials to decide, though, and there seems to e some inconsitencu. Clashing shorts seem to be OK in the PL but not socks. In the FL, officials seem to insist on changes to both shorts and socks when there’s a clash.

The wording of F.22 is strange, though, as the last sentence contradicts the first.

]]> By: Suhird http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-52765 Suhird Tue, 28 Dec 2010 05:52:09 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-52765 Hello John Sir, No comments for the past one year. But this season has also seen shorts clashes Hello John Sir,
No comments for the past one year.
But this season has also seen shorts clashes

]]> By: Suhird http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-28469 Suhird Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:00:25 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-28469 Hey John, so shorts do not carry a rule for clashes Hey John, so shorts do not carry a rule for clashes

]]> By: Suhird http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-20660 Suhird Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:36:55 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-20660 Hello John, I saw that match (Stoke vs Wigan) and it was distingiushable easily. So that is why i said that a clash is not defined. Hello John, I saw that match (Stoke vs Wigan) and it was distingiushable easily. So that is why i said that a clash is not defined.

]]> By: John Devlin http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-20388 John Devlin Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:52:27 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-20388 Hello Suhird, that Stoke/Wigan game was ridiculous! Orange clearly clashes with red in my book (as does claret of course). Interesting point about Utd at Anfield but I don't think that it would be a problem to wear white shorts for just one game though. I have heard from a very reliable source that Utd (under Gary Neville's instructions!) always like to wear all-white at Anfield so I was surprised to see them in the black shirt to be honest. Glad you're enjoying the thread! Seems to have got people talking. Hello Suhird, that Stoke/Wigan game was ridiculous! Orange clearly clashes with red in my book (as does claret of course).

Interesting point about Utd at Anfield but I don’t think that it would be a problem to wear white shorts for just one game though. I have heard from a very reliable source that Utd (under Gary Neville’s instructions!) always like to wear all-white at Anfield so I was surprised to see them in the black shirt to be honest.

Glad you’re enjoying the thread! Seems to have got people talking.

]]> By: Suhird http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-20282 Suhird Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:49:42 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-20282 Another thing i wanted to say is that Man Utd wore white shorts and socks against liverpool with their black away shirts because they would have got a pair of white shorts made by their kit manufacturers (nike) to avoid a kit clash, supposedly against sunderland in the Stadium of light. But it would be stupid to get them made for only one match in the whole season, so they must be wearing the white shorts with their away kit whenever they play a team which has a clash with their home jersey but not with white shorts. (THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND) Another thing i wanted to say is that Man Utd wore white shorts and socks against liverpool with their black away shirts because they would have got a pair of white shorts made by their kit manufacturers (nike) to avoid a kit clash, supposedly against sunderland in the Stadium of light. But it would be stupid to get them made for only one match in the whole season, so they must be wearing the white shorts with their away kit whenever they play a team which has a clash with their home jersey but not with white shorts.

(THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND)

]]> By: Suhird http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-20281 Suhird Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:44:35 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-20281 I respect you John Devlin because this the only thread i have found abt this shorts and changing etc. which actually interests me, but a clash is not defined. The other day saw Stoke city in red and white shirts against Wigan athletic in orange shirts. It was difficult to spot the players, but a clash is not defined. It depends on the referee. RSVP I respect you John Devlin because this the only thread i have found abt this shorts and changing etc. which actually interests me, but a clash is not defined. The other day saw Stoke city in red and white shirts against Wigan athletic in orange shirts. It was difficult to spot the players, but a clash is not defined. It depends on the referee. RSVP

]]> By: John Devlin http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-19460 John Devlin Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:13:30 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-19460 Hello Suhird, in my experience navy and black is always considered a clash in both shorts and socks (as well as shirts of course). You are right it seems to be the case that shorts is purely down to the club's discretion and that it is just shirts and socks that there are rules about. Which makes AJ's comment about the Birmingham/Bristol City match last season odd - it must have just been a mistake in that game. Its weird how cup groupings can sometimes have the same colours - I remember at Euro 2008 one group just seemed to have red and white! Hello Suhird, in my experience navy and black is always considered a clash in both shorts and socks (as well as shirts of course). You are right it seems to be the case that shorts is purely down to the club’s discretion and that it is just shirts and socks that there are rules about. Which makes AJ’s comment about the Birmingham/Bristol City match last season odd – it must have just been a mistake in that game.

Its weird how cup groupings can sometimes have the same colours – I remember at Euro 2008 one group just seemed to have red and white!

]]> By: john b http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-19195 john b Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:03:42 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-19195 cheers aj,i was trying too forget that game!! and United wore black shorts at pompey on saturday to avoid a clash i see. cheers aj,i was trying too forget that game!! and United wore black shorts at pompey on saturday to avoid a clash i see.

]]> By: Suhird http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/truecolours/clash-of-the-shorts/comment-page-2#comment-19118 Suhird Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:43:21 +0000 http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/?p=1197#comment-19118 There is one interesting thing about the Champions League Group D this season. All four teams have their original shorts colour as Blue. Chelsea- Blue Shirt with Blue Shorts, Porto- Blue and White shirt with Blue Shorts, At Madrid- Red and White shirt with Blue shorts and APOEL FC- Yellow shirt with blue shorts. Quite Interesting. Although Atletico Madrid have only worn their red shorts to avoid Shorts Clashes even at home. There is one interesting thing about the Champions League Group D this season. All four teams have their original shorts colour as Blue. Chelsea- Blue Shirt with Blue Shorts, Porto- Blue and White shirt with Blue Shorts, At Madrid- Red and White shirt with Blue shorts and APOEL FC- Yellow shirt with blue shorts. Quite Interesting. Although Atletico Madrid have only worn their red shorts to avoid Shorts Clashes even at home.

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